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Posted by: Ann | 15-Aug-2010 07:28 PM |

As a long term instructor the biggest whinge I have is that I have invested thousands of dollars in music over the years, which I soon will not be able to use. Who is going to compensate me when I have to set about and build a totally new music library? At $40 a class, and doing 6 classes a week, this cost is unacceptable. Instructors once again will carry the cost! No wonder we are so short of instructors now.

Posted by: Sue | 20-Aug-2010 10:28 AM |

I agree, I have invested thousands of $'s in my fitness business and music they must think we are made of money! Instructors don't get pay increases it is a tough industry and not as glamorous as some make it out to be.

Posted by: Jack | 30-Aug-2010 12:56 PM |

LMAP are obviously trying to stop the creation of this two-tier situation by only issuing PPCA-free music from now on. Les Mills says that 90% of gyms are PPCA-free, I instruct at 8 different gyms across Sydney, 4 are taking a ‘wait and see’ approach to becoming PPCA-free, the others are PPCA-free. I don’t think members have twigged that there are still PPCA clubs around though. Undoubtly all clubs will become PPCA-free, there is no point in a club being ‘eliete’ and promoting itself as being able to play original music in GF classes as there won’t be any instructors around with PPCA music anymore for LM classes, we only want to have one set of tracks at a time not chopping and changing. At the moment for me I do both, but over time I’ll get more songs and will become PPCA-free, even for the clubs that choose to keep paying.

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Posted by: Andrew | 19-May-2010 01:17 PM |

I agree that the record companies are not doing their cause any good. I have bought a fair bit of music as result of enjoying it at the gym but that is now in the past it seems. It is a real shame that a lot of original music will not be seen or heard at the gym but the royalty fee is unrealistic.

Posted by: Anonymous | 19-May-2010 01:35 PM |

just wondering, this whole PPCA debarcle is now going to put even more stress on the stetched budgets of Group Fitness Instructors, who as we all know are pushed to the limit when it comes to paying out money just to continue to do what we are so passionate about. I've taught GF for 24years and over all have paid out much more than what I have ever got back monetry wise. (you can't put a price on job satisfaction !!) But now I have to discard my substantial music collection (many cds from Trax) and start over again.

Posted by: Anonymous | 19-May-2010 02:16 PM |

I'm resigned to the situation now. There is plenty of great license-free music to use in classes- we just have to do the research and find it. I don't believe that TRAX or any other aerobics music providers could ever have forseen this- it's not their fault but they are trying to source music for us. If we whinge less about it, our members won't find it a negative thing. Wonder what the next thing to capture our attention will be? I predict that it'll be business as usual within a year, meaning that we'll either pay the fees and deal with it, or we'll stick to license-free music and deal with that, too.

Posted by: Lynne | 22-Jun-2010 04:49 PM |

Unbelievable! I used to buy a lot of music because i'd heard it in a fitness class and liked it. No more! It's just plain greed and I reckon many more will boycott buying music because of it.

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Posted by: Debbie Marl | 11-May-2010 01:03 PM |

I am an original Step Teacher from 20yrs ago, I have progressed with the industry. Unfortunately now on the Gold Coast, Qld, there is not (1) single solitary Gym offering freestyle Step. All the major chains, Beach House, One Life, Fenix, etc., ONLY teach Les Mills Body Step. Instructors with skill, expertise and experience galore, are now no longer needed or employed. Very Sad.

Posted by: Ann | 15-Aug-2010 07:32 PM |

Hi Debbie, same prob in SE suburbs of Melbourne. I teach 2 freestyle step classes a week, and the members love them! But, when I take a week off, they are covered by Body Step, or worse still a different format. Why cant Les Mills instructors teach freestyle? Surely they have the skills. Can a LM instructor explain this to me. I could teach BodyStep in a snap, why not visa versa.

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Posted by: Matt O'Neill | 02-Feb-2010 11:45 AM |

I'm cheering for anyone who want to lose a lot of weight to get healthy, but dramatic weight loss stuffs your metabolism. See Media Release on this here: http://tinyurl.com/y8lsgta. Given the downnsides I can only feel that people experience rapid weight loss, either (1) Because they need it for motivation or (2) Their plan is too restrictive (eg. shakes) and causes excessive losses. I present an alertnative program that focuses optimising metabolism with real foods and boosting nutrition skills. With these elements, you don't need rapid results because you feel confident to get results and keep them (without stuffing your metabolism). If anyone wants info - metabolicjumpstart.com. Twitter - /matthewoneill

Posted by: Anonymous | 02-Feb-2010 11:54 AM |

I would love to share my media release which also expresses my thoughts about the Biggest Loser! Media Release: 2 February 2010 Could The Biggest Loser Be Sending Out The Wrong Message? Viewers across the nation tune in to The Biggest Loser, many of whom are overweight and desperate to find motivation and answers to help them also shed their unwanted body-fat. But is it realistic to let people think that 15kg of weight loss in one week is normal, or even realistic? We already have a society who want quick fixes and overnight solutions, add to this the pressure of having them feel that losing 10-15kg a week is ‘normal’ and they are more likely than ever to feel that they are failures when they can’t achieve these results. For every day Aussies that are not locked away for months on end with a personal trainer and chef’s, losing weight permanently requires a balanced approach and permanent lifestyle changes; changes that are real, that are simple and that are effective – not something that requires drinking their meals for the rest of their lives or having them feel hopeless or like failures when it doesn’t work. So, with over 7.4 million Australian adults classified as overweight or obese and those figures expected to increase by 50 per cent within five years*, Sonja Falvo (Director of Real Body Enterprises) has launched the inaugural National Fat-Loss-a-Thon. Ms Falvo sees this event as a necessity for our nation’s health and wellbeing. “I want to help build a healthier and fitter country, so I have set a goal to help 4,000 Australians lose 24,000 kilos and raise $250,000 for The Sports Rewards Foundation between 1 January and 17 May, 2010’,” MS Falvo said. Each participant in The National Fat-Loss-A-Thon will take part in a 12-week online program developed by Real Body Enterprises, with the chance to win more than $13,000 in cash and prizes. The event is aimed at improving overall health and wellbeing, assisting in weight loss and providing simple and effective lifestyle changes, Ms Falvo explained. “The National Fat-Loss-A-Thon will help to raise awareness of the importance of physical activity and healthy lifestyle habits for the prevention of obesity, type II diabetes and heart disease” she said. Registration for the National Fat-Loss-A-Thon began on 1 January 2010 and entries remain open until 28 February, 2010. Participants will receive online access to information and guidelines on how to follow the 12-week Real Body Program, including recipes, meal plans and exercise programs. Ms Falvo wrote the program after two years of research and through her work with three nutritionists. Entry is confirmed with a $10 donation to the Sports Rewards Foundation and each participant’s 12-week program must be completed by 17 May, 2010. Winners are judged 50 per cent on their physical results (from their before and after photos) and 50 per cent on personal questionnaire answers. The National Fat-Loss-a-Thon is supported by the following sponsors: Real Body Enterprises www.RealBodyEnterprises.com PB Sports www.pbsportsnutrition.com Swish Events www.swishcorporation.com Strawberry Communications www.strawberrycommunications.com.au Westpac www.westpac.com.au Blooms Health www.bloomshealth.com.au Hound Dog Graphics www.hounddoggraphics.com.au Balanced Magazine www.balancedmedia.com.au For more information visit www.fatlossathon.com and http://www.healthyweightweek.com.au/index.asp * Australian Bureau of Statistics: Overweight and Obesity in Adults Australia 2004-2005, Catalogue 4719.0 -ends- For further information, images or interviews please contact: Johanna Baker-Dowdell Strawberry Communications P: 0423 969 661 E: johanna@strawberrycommunications.com.au W: www.strawberrycommunications.com.au Sonja Falvo Real Body Enterprises P: (07) 3392 0770 E: admin@realbodyenterprises.com W: www.RealBodyEnterprises.com About Real Body Enterprises • Real Body Enterprises aims to deliver a sensible, realistic approach to healthy eating and lifestyle to provide long-term fat loss, increased self-esteem and quality of life • Real Body Enterprises wants to reduce the global epidemic of obesity in children and adults through education, support and a program that is designed to deliver results to every person, every time • Real Body Enterprises CEO Sonja Falvo is an author of two bestselling books, keynote speaker and has a strong passion for helping people to improve their long-term health, wellbeing and self-esteem • Sonja Falvo was also Director of What Women Want Personal Training in Brisbane and National Fitness Manager for Fitness First in the UK • Real Body Enterprises: Level 16/120 Edward St, Brisbane, (07) 3392 0770 or admin@realbodyenterprises.com. About The Sports Rewards Foundation • The Sports Rewards Foundation is a not-for-profit entity • It was established to remove barriers to entry for children involved in physical activity and organised sport (to combat the childhood obesity epidemic) as well as to actively promote physical activity and organised sports to children and teens • The Sports Rewards Foundation aims to raise awareness of the importance of physical activity for better health in children and donate more than $2 million per year to grass roots sports. • Visit www.SportsRewards.net.au and click on Foundation for more information.

Posted by: Shaz | 02-Feb-2010 12:16 PM |

I love it. I loved it last night when they had to do their public speaking - very brave. I'm well aware of the dangers of such rapid weight loss and the damage it can do - but it also encourages larger people to start asking questions and asking for help. I know I have a feedback newsletter at the end of each week of all the questions my clients have asked during the week. As a person who battles with her weight every day of her life, I understand the demons that some of these people go through. However look at their fantastic achievements. The young man, Shannon, he had a major breakthrough last night by getting off the ground and continuing the walk. Good on these people for being brave enough to go on tv for help. Good on them for allowing us to hear their demons and see their struggles. Good on anyone else this show motivates to start looking after themselves. Any trainer worth their profession would obviously tell their clients that this is extreme and will not happen to them, but if it motivates them even more to get moving - that's a fantastic thing.

Posted by: Bel | 02-Feb-2010 01:08 PM |

I think this show is the greatest thing to ever grace reality TV. It's motivating sedentary people to get moving & proving that you can lose weight, no matter what your circumstances. Those that have been following the show for a while will know that losing 10kg a week isn't realistic for anyone in the real world but we have to remember that they have personal trainers/nutritionists on the show & are on tight food restrictions. They also work out more than the average person per day AND have a LOT more weight to lose, hence the massive losses. The great thing about The Biggest Loser is that It shows how emotional the journey to losing weight can be. The contestants are so inspirational & defy all kinds of odds to lose weight. Its not easy to get up in front of the whole country with half your gear off so everyone can see your body (during weigh-in). Massive respect for anyone that can do that, especially on TV. As a personal trainer, I get a lot of ideas from the show (although some of the exercises are not-so conventional). I think the trainers do a great job in coaching the contestants, both physically & emotionally. Long live Biggest Loser!

Posted by: Gabrielle Maston Dietitian and Exercise Physiologist www.changingshape.net.au | 02-Feb-2010 01:16 PM |

I think the underlying priciples of the show -using Diet therapy and Exercsie for weight loss is great. I do however disaggree with the intensity of exercise the participants undertake. Being obese places a large strain on joints and the cardiovascular system. Undertaking this type of exercise intensity can be very dangerous for these people. Far often than not there is a participant who injures themselves thats puts them "out of the game" for a significant period of time. This can be very discouraging for the participant, but also I believe shows professional negligence by the trainers. Often in new clients I see , I am disappointed when they complain how hard it is to lose weight. often referring to the biggest losers. They state that if they also had 6 hours to train they would be able to lose weight too. The show creates an unrealistic view on weight loss treatment. It causes weightloss to be viewed as a distant unattainable goal in ther circumstances. Encourage your clients to exercise moderatly and adopt a view on healthy eating and food. This is really all it takes. In good health - Gabrielle Maston- Dietitian/nutritionist and Exercise physiologist www.changingshape.net.au

Posted by: Joanne Butler | 02-Feb-2010 01:53 PM |

I'm not sure whether I love or hate it because there are parts I think are too much and others, like the fact that it motivates so many to give it a go, that are spot on. I think any one of us (fitness professionals) can take bits and pieces and use them as motivation for those already on their journey or for those that are yet to begin. Anything that can help motivate people to change to a healthier lifestyle is great in my books. I love the way they use both nutrition and training as the means even though sometimes I feel that the workouts themselves are not quite appropriate. But then again, what we see on TV could be totally different to what really goes on. Jo

Posted by: Nick Whiley | 02-Feb-2010 02:29 PM |

I love the show, and the good health practices it actively promotes and encourages. To suggest it creates unrealistic expectations because of the amount of weight lost each week is like suggesting I would get an unrealistic expectation of how much money I can make if I read Bill Gates' biography. I believe the show does a great job of presenting solid old fashioned healthy habits (diet and exercise, with appropriate supervision) methods of losing weight. It makes no claim that viewers can achieve similar results without similar focus and effort, and frankly I don't think people are that stupid. Of course the production wants to make the show competitive, so we'll see some people achieving dramatic results. I believe that over-achievement serves more to inspire than mis-lead. OK, I'm off to make $35billion in business now! Surely it can't be THAT difficult. ;)

Posted by: Anonymous | 02-Feb-2010 04:17 PM |

Could it be that these people really need to see someone about their Psychological problems before they attack their physical one?

Posted by: patricia mclean | 02-Feb-2010 07:56 PM |

as per above yes you can not loose weight and ikeep it of until the psychological demons have been addressed, i know this from perrsonal experince. so maybe there neds to be a psychologist attached to the show, the trainers do address this issue, but i do not think they are trained in this feild, though all personal trainers do act as councellors to some extent

Posted by: Michelle H | 02-Feb-2010 11:52 PM |

I love it - being in the fitness (& personal development) industry I am fully supportive of the contestants and trainers. It really emphasises that with consistency and determination, you can achieve whatever you desire. There may be health risks associated with rapid weight loss but can it be any worse than where they started? Good onto them and providing motivation to those that need it.

Posted by: Gary Hoffman | 03-Feb-2010 02:12 AM |

Yep fitness - good, yep healthy eating - good, yep weight loss for obese - good, biggest loser - good? YEP FOR RATINGS! Lets not lose sight of why this show exists. TV RATINGS! think about it, if someone on the show had a heart attack from the exessive strain they are put through and could not be saved the show would be axed, if ratings declined the show would be axed. 'Reality' I think not, as a trainer and assessor for the fitness industry (first qualifed in 1987 - upgraded as recently as 2008 and constantly upskilling), I do not like the message it sends out! Question: would all those above saying they 'love it' risk their own clients life (do you have a medical team standing by?) in this way????

Posted by: Clayton | 04-Feb-2010 12:07 PM |

It's a love hate relationship really. But having said that, anything that gets people interested in losing weight or fitness or just generally getting of their backside and starting to move is a plus. While the situation they create on TV is hard to emulate in the real world, ie. food prepared by chefs, the whole drama of the situation and the endless props necessary to entertain people into exercise, ignoring the medium is foolish as is trying to discredit the show. Have to agree with Matt's comment also... Nutrient rich food, sensible eating and exercise is a sound way to get into shape NO MATTER WHERE YOU START FROM. There are no pills, shakes, etc. required to lose weight. Regards, Clayton Adelaide Personal Trainers http://www.adelaidepersonaltrainers.com.au

Posted by: Elissa | 10-Feb-2010 07:29 PM |

So totally agree with Anonymous. All I see is a mass of emotional/psychological trauma...

Posted by: Esther | 11-Feb-2010 10:47 AM |

As a personal trainer ... all the show does for me is create a false impression of massive rapid weight loss. I am finding it difficult for my clients (those that actually watch the show) to understand that there never is a quick "fix solution" to weight loss and maintaining that weight loss.

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Posted by: @JTActiveMgmt | 09-Sep-2009 07:28 PM |

I have to agree that TRX and suspension training has a huge future! This will be an awesome resource for group training in a club and also for PTs! I am currently with Zumba instructor in India and she raves about the program. Dance in recent years has re-invented itself and so I agree that the fitness industry must embrace dance and use it for good and not evil! That is, embrace it in clubs. Kranking . . . energetic, enthusiastic and potentially dangerous. After watching this product at IHRSA this year, it was super popular. I would be very cautious of putting in a club owing to potential injuries. There is absolute anecdotal research that proves Group X improves retention. The Round Table clubs around the world have statistics to prove what power Group X has on a club's retention. You have missed a powerful trend for improving retention and sales . . . social media! Using the various social mediums are low cost and far reaching. Watch this space . . . Facebook, Twitter, Blogs and more will change the face of the fitness industry and our communication with members and potential members.

Posted by: Taylor Ryan | 26-Oct-2009 11:47 PM |

Great piece. I haven't seen kranking yet here in the US but I think my gym is a bit behind when it comes to their spin program. It sounds killer though. Just out of curiousity what are some trends going on in Australia that aren't so dominant here in the US? I do women's workout training and Australia seems big on online personal training.

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Posted by: Ed | 03-Jul-2009 04:50 PM |

In the city that i teach in, pre-chore dominates the timetables. Not necessarily a bad thing, but sort of sad. Personally, I teach both. I like the consistency of my pump classes but my students and I get a thrill from freestyle!
I agree with the post, there's a place for both...

Posted by: Rose | 03-Jul-2009 05:27 PM |

I started out as a freestyle instructor & my clients enjoyed the spontaneity, creativity and originality of my programs as did I. I teach Body Jam now, and as much as I love it, the pressure to keep going over tracks, remembering them and learning them is huge as I also have a full time job. Instructors also feel locked into a set format which doesn't always accommodate lesser skilled clientele. I miss the freedom of freestyle and being in control of what I presented. The onslaught of Les Mills is great, but instructor individuality & originality has slowly disappeared.

Posted by: Anonymous | 03-Jul-2009 05:33 PM |

I started teaching aerobics back in 1984, so i have seen a lot of changes. (yes i taught slide too) Freestyle started off very simple but as time went on the complex choreography became a little too difficult for the average participant. I would spend days making up choreo and putting my own music together for step and hi-low classes and they were great, fun classes. Maybe we did get a little carried away? I only teach pre-choreographed now, which i have embraced and teach with a passion, but i think there is a place for both on any timetable. We just need to keep it simple, yet fun and motivating.
p.s. there are no freestyle classes on our timetable:-(

Posted by: Kerry | 03-Jul-2009 05:45 PM |

Yes, I must say I was a teacher from the old school of freestyle and all the old names came back in a flash reading your blog....I too succumb to the pressure to do what every one else was doing and left teaching all together. The game had changed to such a degree that I no longer wanted to play. I put it down to "ah well life goes on, you are no longer wanted, let the young ones have a go". But really I was dissapointed in having to leave my imagination and creative instincts at the door and so I do not attend classes at all. My fitness is done at home or on the street, jogging. Lets embrace all types of exercise and delivery methods to ensure the message gets across that no matter how you do it, just move it!

Posted by: Sue | 03-Jul-2009 07:48 PM |

Yes- been there- done that. I started teaching in 1983, barefoot and all. The names on the list above are still vivid, the memories great.
I have seen many changes over the years: "now you can do this- now you can't - now it's ok again" etc. I went with the flow, albeit a little frustrated at times. Pre-choreographed was never for me. I need constant change and challenge; I get bored witless with repetition. The spontaneity of a class cannot be programmed. From freestyle aerobics I moved into Aqua, where freestyle is thankfully still predominant.
I do understand some people like routine and thrive on it, they know where they stand and there are no surprises. Sorry, not for me.
I loved the freedom of presenting a freestyle class, the fun, the surprises, the laughter, the spontaneity, the 'any goes'. Let's bring it back- it's not that hard, you just need a little fantasy and personal input.
I have moved on too and do just a few fill in's these days.
Here's to many more years of aerobics rooms filled to capacity.

Posted by: Ruth | 03-Jul-2009 07:58 PM |

I too come from the old school of freestyle teaching and loved it. I was happy to spend hours working out routines and got a huge sense of satisfaction from adjusting and altering routines until all my regulars got it. It was creative, stimulating and fun. 15 years later I have never taught a pre choreographed class and am sure I never will. I teach mind body classes, with loads of creative and ever evolving choreography that is achievable for my participants. Long live freestyle and individuality in the fitness industry. There are so many amazing and talented instructors out there willing to give their all and use their creativity who feel they are fighting and up hill battle with little support, yet they are the people who keep group exercise diverse, interesting and innovative.

Posted by: Spring Cooper | 03-Jul-2009 07:58 PM |

I'm a freestyler--though i didn't know that there was a word for it before a few months ago. i moved here from the US where I've been teaching since 2001. we don't "do" Les Mills. There are very few Les Mills classes at very few gyms. i am still shocked by the domination it has here. participants here love my classes (when i can convince a gym to let me teach--since 90% of timetables are Les Mills). I get so much fantastic feedback. People are dying for some freestyle. They just don't know it bc most of the young gym-goers only know Les Mills. I say even the schedules up. A few good freestyle classes are what this country needs.

Posted by: G | 03-Jul-2009 08:30 PM |

I succumbed to the 'pressure' of the Les Mills onslaught. As the pre-choreographed class rose to prominence my confidence to teach freestyle classes, and not feel 'out-dated', diminished. I consider/ed myself a creative and vibrant instructor, however remembering choreography has always challenged me (whether it was a 3 minute competitive routine or a pre-choreographed Body Pump class). Eventually I stopped teaching and drifted 'behind the scenes', never leaving the industry, but losing my passion for what got me started in the first place . . . aerobics. This article reminded me that there is no 'right or wrong' when it comes to creating magic for your members . . . it comes from the heart and might come pre-packaged in polystyrene, or just as easily might come straight 'off the boat'.

Posted by: Julie Urban | 03-Jul-2009 08:55 PM |

I am another "oldie instructor", I started instructing in 1991, specialising in step classes...I was big then and still going strong today. My classes are full at all the gyms I work at. My style is freestyle (complex choreography),. I refuse to teach pre-choreographed classes, as I need to keep my brain active and creative and at the same time display my individuality!

Posted by: Anonymous | 03-Jul-2009 09:09 PM |

I am one of the minority that still love freestyle. I have taught pre-choreographed and am back to freestyle. The funny thing is that you can do the same pre-choreographed classes for 3 months and everyone loves them and raves on about how great the new Pump or Combat is. Teach the same freestyle for more than a week and you get crucified!!!

Posted by: Rhee | 03-Jul-2009 09:46 PM |

I began taking classes in 1988. I have attended most Les Mills classes but never taught any. I did do the training for Balance but didn't follow through with it. I like freestyle, so I moved over to aqua. I thoroughly enjoy using my imagination and being creative. I have recently moved and am not taking any classes now as there are not the facilities where I am living now for aqua classes, and the local gym has only Les Mills classes. I think there is room for both, and I look forward to introducing some freestyle land based classes to this area!!!

Posted by: Jari Rehula | 04-Jul-2009 09:00 AM |

At my Gym in Canberra, the Freestyle classes get heaps more attendance than the "Les Mills" classes on our timetable. If I could source a couple of good Freestylers to help me out I could totally get rid of pre-choreographed classes all together. I'm running a lone hand at the moment. Les Mills is so expensive as well if your running a small gym. I remember working at RCM Healthland during the peak of Freestyle and it was awesome indeed. I think maybe we ruined it with too much choreography, but it sure was fun,eh????

Posted by: Olivia | 04-Jul-2009 09:38 AM |

I'm a freestyle teacher and always have been, I feel constricted by pre-choreographed tracks. My classes are full and have been for years, there's always a downturn at times, school hols and winter or summer sometimes, but I love my students and I love the energy I give them and them to me in return. I find it sad that there are no other gyms in my city to which I can teach freestyle. I would love to share my enthusiasm across the city and show people there's another way of teaching, but most gyms I've approached are locked into the choreographed system. Bring back freestyle I say!

Posted by: Dale Tubinas | 04-Jul-2009 12:32 PM |

There most definitely is a big gap still, between the good instructors and great instructors in the freestyle world because there isn't any official continuing education for freestyle instructors. Much unlike Les Mills and Radical Fitness, who have education sessions on their quarterly dvds and updates which not only serve to better instructors talent-wise, but network and broaden their work opportunities teaching pre-choreo style classes!!
People training up to become instructors aren't exposed to as much freestyle; most gyms offer more pre-choreo now, so anyone becoming an instructor is more likely to teach pre-choreo- it's easier to teach WELL and you can learn how to do it pretty quickly. Developing as a freestyle instructor takes YEARS, and members are not as forgiving towards less talented freestylers.
Freestyle firstly needs promotion in order to become "cool" again, plus we need to teach it WELL in order for it to survive. Let's do it!

Posted by: Jenny | 04-Jul-2009 04:46 PM |

I own and teach at a small fitness centre and we are completely freestyle and very popular, most of our classes are full but it takes a lot of training and extra work to maintain good freestyle Instructors and I can understand gym owners going for Les Mills, it is easier, and you get the same type of quality.
In the long term, I think we will have a mixture of freestyle and pre-choreographed, but we need to be willing to spend time and effort training people to become good freestyle Instructors.
It is harder work but well worth it.

Posted by: Anonymous | 04-Jul-2009 11:43 PM |

Lot of fair and reasonable comments here... I love freestyle and have taught it for 15 years but I also teach choroeographed classes. In fact I was teaching the barbell/pump type classes before it was patented/copyrighted. Let's face it. Nothing beats a good freestyle class with an instructor who can teach, who can nurture and who can bring anyone (even a first timer) along for the journey. We need a lot of skills and we need a lot of experience and a lot of personality. We did/do get carried away with complex choreography and if we can't teach it we come undone and the punters don't come back. Jari was right - get a few good freestylers and you can make an entire timetable come alive and have ongoing full classes . But where do we get a good freestylers now? When I first started I attended regular workshops run by most of the instructors named by Rebecca. But now the only time you can do a freestyle workshop is at Filex or a M&M workshop. We have to face up to reality that freestyle won't come back til gyms and group ex mgrs put some time and money into the programs and the instructors - but they won't do that when they have the "McDonald's" pre-chore classes packaged up for them - it's too easy (and that's not a dig at Les Mills). Take the effort out and provide consistency that brings the punters and gyms will love it. We freestylers have a long wait before things come around again. but as Rebecca said "what's old is new". Things always go round and I do believe that great instructors will always be able to pull a class.
Good luck and keep your skills up.

Posted by: Mandy Mckinnon | 05-Jul-2009 12:22 PM |

I started teaching classes back in 1992 in a small country town when step reebok was the new big thing in group exercise. We had New body, Results (interval class with 5 min cardio 5 min weights), slide reebok, circuit and the list goes on. There were freestyle workshops most weekends in the capital city gyms, and we even had instructors touring around to country towns so there was always places for instructors to get ideas for choreography, cueing techniques etc.. In 1997 we started Body pump which was huge at the time, and then other Les Mills prorams started popping up. I refused to sell out and use someone elses pre choreography when I had full classes for my own step and Hi low classes(I do teach Pump and Balance).
Fortunately for me we have both style classes at the gym I work at, BUT, my problem as group fitness manager is to get current instructors who have only ever taught LES MILLS classes, to teach anything else. Some of their classes aren't working, but they refuse to teach another style of class. Recruiting new instructors to teach freestyle is virtually impossible as there is very limited places for them to go and get ideas for their own choreography.
To teach Les Mills classes you basically have to just do a couple of weekends of training and complete a workboook, and then send in a video of yourself teaching a class. To teach freestyle you have to complete your cert 3 in fitness (and learn alot of extra information irrelevant to teaching classes in a gym) and then seek out freestyle workshops which might happen twice a year. No wonder there are so few new freestyle intructors coming through the system. Is there any way we can come up with a course specific to teaching classes which concentrates on teaching techniques, choreography etc....Filex is fantastic, but there are less and less freestyle group fitness sessions, and alot of them are so complicated that new instructors would get little take home value from them. (not to mention the fact that there are so many sessions in the weekend that alot of the information and choreography would be lost ands we have to tracel over 1000km to get there). Is there any presenters out there willing to teach new instructors?? I am trying to create freestyle instructors, but I don't know where to send them to get training.
Any ideas would be most appreciated. (I am teaching a couple of young instructors in my own time but don't know what the next step is)
Long live Freestyle!!!

Posted by: Mandy Reed | 05-Jul-2009 05:16 PM |

I have been teaching 'freestyle' classes for 20 years in a country town 45 mins from Canberra. I run a small aerobic business and teach a variety of low, step, pump, and circuit classes each week. I could never afford 'Les Mills" and wasn't ever interested in teaching it so Freestyle it was and still is and my participants love it. I will continue teaching freestyle as long as I physically can. I would be happy to teach new instructors 'free-style' instructing. Free style is great!!!

Posted by: Shirley Batchelor | 05-Jul-2009 10:32 PM |

It was after a session with the king of funk, Marcus Irwin back in 1990 that I said - "if that's aerobics, I'm in" so I too am a fan of freestyle and have never strayed. As others above have said - since the Les Mills machine hit our shores, where can freestylers go now for inspiration? and how can we get young/new trainers to teach freestyle when all they have ever experienced has been pre choreographed stuff? I run my own little fitness studio and take most sessions myself so I can't do midweek sessions. The 1/2 day weekend workshops that used to happen (and provided CEC's) fizzled and freestylers were left out in the cold. There are plenty of videos and DVD's that we can buy (but you don't get CEC's) however, you don't get the same kick out of it compared to networking with others at a workshop. I guess LM is a bit like Curves - if it's getting people exercising who otherwise possibly wouldn't then I suppose that's a good thing - but if (like someone above said) to teach LM you don't even have to have cert 3, when to be a group ex leader and teach freestyle you must have cert 3. - that's not fair. It's late, can't think anymore

Posted by: Lynsie Dunkley | 06-Jul-2009 07:29 AM |

I agree 100% with Shirley. I am 62 and have been instructing freestyle for over 20 years and haven't hung up my Reeboks yet. I love the freedom of being creative and original in the movements I present. Choreography is like a work of art and an extension of one's personality. Freestyle is also more adaptable than a set format to meet the nedds of the less skilled participant. I have resisted becoming a Les Mills instructor and I am sure may other instructors have tried to resist. But practical educational programs for freestyle instructors are almost non-existent and it is hard to get the CECs. Workshops are desperately needed for classes such as Barbell, Step and Circuit. Bring back the likes of Marcus Irwin and Lexie Williams who were truly inspirational presenters. It would be a positive move for the fitness industry. There are fitness centres out there which do not have Les Mills on their timetables.

Posted by: Kay | 06-Jul-2009 09:38 AM |

Funny, you hit the nail right on the head. I've been around for those 20 years; I remember my first convention was with Lexie, she even trained me to be a fitness instructor. You had to do 40 hours up on the podium and get someone to come and assess you before you got your certification; things have truly changed and I think money and time has taken over and killed part of the role we play as group fitness instructors. The problem I find today is everyone seems to be an expert; especially the younger ones coming through who are coordinators at gyms. they don't know how to talk to clients in a professional manner and they are left to assess instructors not knowing have to critique professionally. I teach freestyle and pre-chorey at various Fitness First clubs. I find a lot of new instructors don't know the simple things such as 'why do we do a step touch or a knee lift; they have no idea when they ask for my help. I hope to continue in the industry for a little longer and hopefull impart what I learnt years ago and continue to teach people to be committed to a healthy lifestyle without the peer pressure.

Posted by: Natalie Mazzucchelli | 06-Jul-2009 10:26 AM |

I have become a Pre-chore junkie but not necessarily through choice. Whilst I love the programmes I teach, it is too hard to continue the freestyle component living in Perth as not many quality workshops come over here. There is also the issue that there are no freestyle instructors avaiable for covers. In my opinion the industry is ready for change but due to staffing requirements it is not going to happen any time soon. There is also the issue of pay rates for freestyle clases which will limit progress.

Posted by: Gail | 06-Jul-2009 05:34 PM |

Rebecca has certainly set the ball rolling with her 'Best of Both Worlds" posting which, having read, left me feeling enlightened. This feeling has grown more so today, having read through the feedback from other instructors. How amazing to find so many of us with fond Freestyle memories and similar feelings. I began teaching 'Aerobics' in the late 1980's and currently teach LM Body Pump, Freestyle Step and Pilates. I became a 'workshop junkie' when those top presenters, mentioned by Rebecca, were at their peak. The atmosphere was electric and you came away so inspired that it had to rub off on the classes you taught. Looking back today I realise just how fantastic these masters were and so approachable at the same time. LM has recruted at least two of these masters that I know of and I still get a buzz going to LM Quaterlies. My Freestyle Step, at one Centre I work at, has gone full circle - although succesfull, it was replaced by Body Step for a while under a new young GFM. This has now been reversed and the Centre has both on the timetable. Variety should be the key in the Fitness Industry, however I concur that in our current Aussie society, the versatility of Pre-Chorey has too many advantages to up and coming instructors over and above the long road, without much support, to becoming a Freestyle Instructor. We must all promote Freestyle to new instructors and pass on that, once mastered, it will give them the best years of their lives as well as more confidence to teach Pre-Choreo classes.

Posted by: Pete Manuel | 07-Jul-2009 02:14 PM |

Being one of the original Les Mills 'pioneers' makes me proud. For 10 years I travelled the world alongside most of those famous freestyle names, presenting at all the major fitness conventions. We weren't enemies. We competed - sure. Competition is healthy. But at the end of the day, what came out of it was a lot of healthy respect and friendship. We proved that a lot of great quality comes from Antipodea/ Australia and New Zealand. We were the ANZAC's out there making a fitness difference to the world, whether it shone through in freestyle or Pre-Choreographed Les Mills. We all wanted to achieve the same thing I'm sure. Get more people moving more often. Give people results-oriented fitness experiences. Get people fitter. And we have helped achieve that. 13000 clubs around the world. 60 countries. And the other figures continue to astound.
What I'm also proud of, reading all the other posts, is that most people generally accept that there is a place for both. Congratulations to you all. There has to be and there needs to be a place for both. Creativity, uniqueness, spontaneity - these words have been popular among some. I'm absolutely sure that everytime I stand in front of any one of my 10 classes per week, I have as much opportunity to be spontaneous and creative within a prechoreographed class. Plus I am UNIQUE because I'm me! And that's where the lines get blurred when we try and differentiate between freestyle and pre-choreographed. Too often, creative, unique and spontaneous are mistaken for coordinated and uncoordinated. Every class we teach, no matter what style or gender is an opportunity not to be missed. It is an opportunity to change lives, to inspire and motivate and to use our natural god-given talents to the best of their abilities. We are all on the right side!
I too believe that we need more freestyle opportunities. We need more workshops and training and controls as it seems it was the lack of controls which sent highly coordinated choreography spiralling out of control and participants spiralling out of studios - 8 counts behind! And now we have the unenviable position of having an instructor market that is unskilled at freestyle. A huge instructor market that would need a huge amount of upskilling to really put quality freestyle back on the map. A freestyle industry in need of a massive overhaul and a quality blueprint to future success and development. We have the talent in Australia to lead this charge. We have the history and we have learn't lessons from our mistakes. It can only help us to make things better and keep us all at the cutting edge of Group Fitness.
Long live Freestyle. Long live PreChoreography. Long live Group Fitness.

Posted by: Jayne | 09-Jul-2009 07:47 AM |

Lets re-package freestyle!!! 'Freestyle' is such a misnomer. As fresstyle instructors we teach a highly stuctured (not to be confused with complexity of choreography) well planned classes which give us the ablitiy to control the learning curve for our clients. We do take our participants on a journey and not just take the "follow me or get it next time" approach. We deliver customised classes for our participants. As a passionate freestyle instructor I stepped out when to much pre-choreography hit the shelves. I have now been trying to get work in the industry as a very experienced instructor in a large regional town and can't get on a timetable!!! Agree with the need for more training. We got where we were because of the fabulous training and development opportunities that were available to us. We won't have instructors and quality classes without without support and guidance.

Posted by: John | 09-Jul-2009 09:34 PM |

Totally love this artical and its about time someone stood up and said it!!!!!!.. I have been in the fitness industry for almost 15 years now and have presenting all over the world for the last 9 - 10 years and am constantly surprised at poor attendence by people wanting to teach freestyle fitness and have the ability to think and structure a class for themselves, instead of being told what to say and do. Whilst I do believe that pre-choreography and freestyle can live side by side, training must be given to everyone... I still believe that freestyle instructors make better LES MILLS teachers than those that have not been through the whole process of planning a class by themselves and developing the performer (unique performer, yourself!) instead of just giving the cues that you receive with you new Body Pump CD. As well as presenting I am a group ex manager and my studio timetable is an equal 50/50 split and all the classes are busy! whenever I arrange a STEP (Freestyle) afternoon at the club, we have a waiting list of people that want to do it, they just can't get enough..... So as Pete said, you guys have got to get out there and help train these people (didn't agree with the Ozzies are best part, being and English man myself!).. Keep freestyle alive. We need new blood out there, i'm getting too old to keep going and need to hand the batton onto someone fresh.

Posted by: Anonymous | 10-Jul-2009 08:28 AM |

I did Pump training in the early days of pump. While I love it as a concept the training I believe undermined my professionalism as an instructor. It was enough to put me off instructing for quite a while. I believe that pre-choreographed classes were pitched to and appealed to managers / owners of fitness centres. It was a quick approach to fix things. If centres had been willing to commit the amount of money to training as they do to pre-choreographeed fees we would have phenomenal instructors. While I believe that packages do try to address instructor techniques and pedagogy, the preoccupation is still with learing "what" to teach rather than "how" or even "why" we do it. Choreography is not a dirty word. A "one size fits all" approach does not give all our participants a chance to succeed. Lets get some balance back! A diet of pre-packaged ready to made meals is not a healthy option in the long term.

Posted by: Kylie | 14-Jul-2009 10:59 AM |

I have been teaching freestyle classes for only five years and enjoy the freedom and creative challenge a freestyle class offers. Although I do believe that pre-choreographed classes have their place, I also believe that there is a large percentage of the population that is not catered for within the format. Freestyle allows you to manipulate and change a class according to the clients. The pre-choreographed classes do not allow for a change of pace or cater for special populations as "the show must go on" (in time with the pre-package cd!). Furthermore, pre-choreographed classes do not necessarily make for good instructors. I am in total agreeance with the above comments that more focus is put on the 'what' rather than the 'how'. I fear that we are thus creating a generation of instructors that have absolutely no idea of how to really teach. God forbid if the cd is damaged and an instructor has to actually make up something to music they do not know phrase for phrase!

Posted by: Wayne David Clark | 14-Aug-2009 11:06 AM |

Good onya Rebecca, for kick starting which will hopefully be a way back to the world of Freestyle....(although you should have put my name on the list) but that's okay... Well let me think as a former Ozzie I too moved to another country to try and help build the industry in Asia, quite well I might add in that when I fist came to HK in 1998 there wasn't much happening or should I say things were just starting to happen and now the industry is booming especially GX. I work for FF in HK and part of my role is head teacher for Freestyle and am working hard to create new and interesting ideas to keep members open minded more than anything and aware that freestyle is very important. In my club I have more Free style classes than our other 6 clubs of course I teach most of them but we do have a small good group of freestylers and freestyle training is quite strong here in HK Having worked personally with all the names above and being a co ordinator for one of the best clubs in Sydney many many years ago Physical Factory Mosman I was shocked actually when I had heard that Peter and Louise (owners) had been bought out by FF. It was one of the last remaining Amazing Fitness Centers in the country and like you said people would come from miles around just to attend the classes taught there. There was an energy that you just can't describe. But most of you up there are freestylers so you will know what I am talking about. I agree with the majority of the comments here the training that is needed to teach PRE CHOREOGRAPHY is nothing compared to what we had to go through. I know that there are some great PRE CHORE teachers or should I say Coaches out there... but that is mainly because they came from a Freestyle Background there are just so many little things that only a freestyler (well trained that is) can pick up in a class something that no matter how much PRE CHORE training you have, may never be able to see. As a Fitness Manager I know that there is a place from a business perspective for PRE CHOREOGRAPHY, but I have to say even though Bodycombat is one of our most popular classes on the timetable, my freestyle Body Toning classes and Stretch classes bring in just as many people and at off peak times so I truly believe there has to be a place for creativity and versatility in all clubs. Like someone mentioned before some countries just don't do PRE CHORE and real fitness presenters teach FREESTYLE workshops to packed crowds all over Europe and the States. So if you look outside Australia FREESTYLE is very much alive and kicking ass... p.s I started teaching my first class in 1980@!#$!#$ OMG Wayne x

Posted by: Tim | 18-Aug-2009 05:10 PM |

Ah...those were the days :-) What a trip down memory lane to read this article and all the great comments. So where did the freestyle class go? I think just as video killed the radio star, choreography might have had a part in killing the fitness class as we knew it. Back in the day there was a place for choreography but i think it just got too complexed as us 'freestyle instructors' got so caught up in our fancy footwork. I did see an evolution of the fitness class as we went from a basic single or multi peak class to a highly complexed choreographed routine with no breathing space or room for error. We went from a track to track pace to a non stop 32 count frenzy. Sure it was fun to be creative and teach routines but did we lose sight of what our participants wanted? I remember I used to hear comments like "i don't want to have to think when I'm doing a class" or I'd watch as a class would halve as people used to walk out in frustration. Just as frustrated as I know participants were getting there were also a lot of frustrated instructors. I recall lots of instructors feeling the pressure of having to teach routines or they would become obsolete. If you didn't teach the way everyone else was then you were out of work. Perhaps we should have left them to keep teaching the great classes they were already teaching. In fact what they were teaching was along the lines of the Les Mills concept. Simple! Add to the problem of classes getting far too complex for the 'norm', there wasn't any consistency in fitness class terminology or content. Although not a fan of Les Mills programs (i'm was a die hard freestyler!) at least participants have some ideas of what they are walking into. As a former die hard freestyler instructor, I used to attend the workshops of the greats and like most others got so excited I couldn't wait to teach my next class to show them the latest new moves. The thing I used to see was a lot of instructors trying to replicate highly complex routines and getting it all wrong. There is a lot of skill involved to be able to teach high complexity in a low complex way. We also need to keep in mind the K.I.S.S principle. A great routine doesn't need to have that many steps and directional changes that it confuses the hell out of people. With the right bit of marketing and upskilling instructors I am sure participants would embrace the freestyle class once more. I recall Lexie Williams once saying something like 'there are no new moves, just new ways of doing them' Bring back the creative flow of the freestyler!

Posted by: Wendy Watkins | 22-Aug-2009 12:24 PM |

I teach freestyle and prechoreographed. What I would like would be smaller workshops for freestyle instructors. Filex is definetely not a possibility for me, because of the cost. If there were more frequent and affordable workshops for freestyle instructors, I would be there. I am talking about choreographed classes, not cycle and boxing.

Posted by: Kate | 13-Sep-2009 07:51 PM |

Another oldie instructor with 20 years experience particularly with step. I still teach 4 step classes a week and they all do well. I work in 3 gyms and I am the only freestyle class on the timetable in two of them. When I need to take a class off, it is replaced by Body Step. After 10 years of LM in the industry, our skill base has been severely depleted, not just instructors, but participants. LM has stopped instructors trying new things, being confident in their own abilities, and being spontaneous. BodyStep is the same stuff rehashed at every launch and our participants dont ever evolve. We have been taken for a ride......sad but true, and LM has laughed all the way to the bank!

Here at Network we would tend to disagree. Whist it is true that there is a shortage of skilled freestyle instructors in the marketplace, there are a huge number of very talented LM instructors who do a fantastic job getting people to exercise - which is exactly what we all should be worried about. As mentioned above in a previous comment, we all have the same mission regardless of what we teach. The LM product is good, in fact it is VERY good, and that's why there are more than 13,000 clubs around the world using their programs. No one should fault someone for having a good business idea and capitalising on it, that's what a free market is all about! Keep teaching and keep smiling, no matter what modality you choose. - Network

Posted by: lisa t | 25-Oct-2009 10:48 AM |

Hi from Sweden. :-) I have been giving classes since 1984 and have since the vast change that came with the Les Mills programs. The good thing is that there are more guys (males) attending the grouptraining classes and there are more females that have started doing weighttraining at the gym after they were introduced to weights by the Bodypumpclasses. I do feel however that the "quality" of the instructors are lower today compared to a few years ago. The need for a good education, containing anathomy, physiology etc is not as important as it used to be as the Les Mills programmes are all set and they teach you how to do and what to do and you might not actually need to have the full understanding and yet get away with teaching it. That is how I feel :-) So please make room for both. Bring back the freestyle-classes. kram

Posted by: Annie | 25-Oct-2009 05:40 PM |

You rock Kram!! Networks response is great in an ideal world, and I passionately would love to have it that way. However, in the real world, well in Melbourne suburbs anyway, LM dominates most timetables AND what happens to instructors that have years of experience and cannot work in a gym because they dont teach LM? They disappear taking their knowledge and skills and individuality with them. My local Fernwood recently took all freestyle classes off their timetable, and in the process 2 fantastic, experienced instructors, who had fab classes were put out of work! Bizarre and why?? The classes cut out were amongst the most popular on the timetable. Now that gym has all LM and some Yoga and Pilates.....no choice, and no explanations given......and this is the REALITY! How can a lone freestyle instructor compete with the LM marketing machine, when it is coming from well above in the organisation? THEY CAN'T!! Organisations like Network should be proactively encouraging clubs to maintain balance shouldnt they....we are all paid up members of Network - dont we deserve a bit of support? And if LM instructors are so wildly talented, why cant they teach a freestyle class, when they are covering for a freestyle instructor??

Posted by: Wilson Australia | 06-Feb-2010 08:28 AM |

Active health Clubs in Cairns Embraces Freestyle in 3 of its five Clubs in Cairns ours customers, after I mentioned this article to the freestyle instructors Ben Newman came back with a awsome resonse which I have posted..Adam Hi Adam, please pass on my feedback to Rebecca: "Hi Rebecca, Having been mentored by some amazing Freestyle and Les Mills instructors on the Gold Coast ten years ago, I too have witnessed a lot of change in the industry in regard to the group fitness products used in the Australian Industry. Yes, Les Mills have the budget, the team of inspiring experts in their program fields, and yes there has been an exit of high calibre freestyle instructors in the Australian Fitness Industry, so what is the solution? Where do you find freestyle instructors who are experts in their field (ie. weight-lifting, strength or sports conditioning, martial arts, dancing, yoga, etc etc) who have full-time jobs in the fitness industry, speak to the customers, strategically plan variety of programs, commit to practice and testing out their formula, source inspiring music, and are available ALL THE TIME at the required timeslot? I would love to see more variety on group fitness timetables, I would love to see new awe-inspiring dynamic freestyle fitness instructors (I have had the pleasure of working with both Lisa Osbourne and Michelle Dean in the past two years), and I would like to see customers talking about enjoyable quality freestyle classes, but do I think the Australian Fitness Industry has any skilled instructors who can commit to producing this each week? no. The truth is that Health & Fitness is now a part-time industry, with part-time attitudes. Instructors DO want to shine and have popular classes, but only at the times that suit them personally and with the least amount of effort. I speak with other instructors at FILEX when browsing the freestyle music sales, and no one is comfortable with quality of freestyle in Australia, or the availability of instructors. If you would like to see people commit the time to becoming better rolemodels for freestyle fitness, you will need each and every health club in Australia to commit the time and expense of hiring full time group fitness instructors, and paying them to produce better freestyle programs (whilst giving them funding for pursing sports, tournaments, and competitions to be better EXPERTS in their fields, as well as the time/funds to upskill with education courses). Until each and every health club hires someone for this role, freestyle will never become popular with Australian customers. Good luck. Benjamin Newman BDM, Active Health group ph: 13-000-FITNESS www.activehealthclubs.com.au

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Posted by: Williams Australia | 10-Jun-2009 11:41 AM |

Well written Ryan and i agree that it can be an area that baffles many trainers and they tend to leave it to late to renew in time.
My concern with this blog is that many of our trainers in Australia are still behind the times and do not even know they exist. As you can see by the amount of comments posted.
Very soon i will have a very affordable option for all trainers across Australia to get up to speed with this latest internet marketing tool (a very good one at that).
Stay tuned to www.succeed.com.au for more info very soon.
Great idea from Australian Fitness Network keep blogging and the rest will catch up.

Posted by: Roland Schuller | 28-Jun-2009 09:44 AM |

Good to know how it works now.
Could it be a coincidence, that compulsory recognized eCECs are linked to a fee and optional accredited not?

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Posted by: Anonymous | 04-Jun-2009 06:32 AM |

Hi Steve,
Good to read positive stuff about the vibration training.I was at first a bit sceptic being a personal trainer (you know what we are like) and even having a bad experience trying it out, I have been working with it for two years now intensively (We at vibragym work one on one with the clients)A lot of people use because it is short and intense, but I worked with quite a few people of which one was told she could not walk again after being paralized.She started just having her feet on the plate for months, after persevering she started to come in with a walker instead of a wheelchair.
Myself, (by the way I am 64,) if I do RPM and have not used the vibration for a couple of days my legs get quite tired during class.
Anyway I would love to learn more about vibration training for rehab as such.
Warm regards
Dineke Kleyn, FC Vibragym, Whangaparaoa,New Zealand.
P.S.The machines I work with are the only medical certified at the moment.

Posted by: Di Heap | 04-Jun-2009 06:59 AM |

A dedicated site with articles (lots of info) and comments. You can also get all your questions answered (Note: the site does NOT sell anything)
www.vibrationtraining.net

Posted by: Robinson Australia | 04-Jun-2009 07:31 AM |

I have a client who required knee surgery so cardio training was impossible for her. After using my vibration technology she lost a few kilos in a few weeks, and it definitely wasn't because of her diet! So put it down to the vibration techniques.

Posted by: Anonymous | 04-Jun-2009 10:27 AM |

Have made vibration training available to members as an added value, however they were rarely used as most feel they get more out of functional exercise. We also have a large rehab based membership, along with Physio's, who never use these platforms. Have noticed that the vibration training studio continually move to smaller and smaller premises - so are not doing very well. All in all vibration platforms very over rated.

Posted by: David Driscoll | 04-Jun-2009 10:56 AM |

Could we have a reference for this quote please "This process also uses up to 100 per cent of a muscle’s fibre, "
The reason we have science is because people's anecdotal stories aren't reliable as evidence. Just read what the majority of papers say, vibration training has its place but the claims made by most people selling and promoting it (like this article appears to be) are massively exaggerated.
I predict this will mostly be another trend trainers will move on from in a few years; to the next pseudo-scientific gimmick.

Posted by: Sean | 04-Jun-2009 11:31 AM |

Vibration training is a fad, a rip off. It is snake oil of the lowest order. It lacks any credible research back up and has no physiological rationale behind it whatsoever.
Its success is entirely because it is easily marketable - both clients and wanna-be trainers can be produced en masse thanks to bogus certification programs and cheesy marketing - all working towards the ultimate goal of making the people who manufacture these contraptions a large amount of money.
Compare this with say kettle bell training - incredibly effective but nowhere near as successful in the fitness market - why? Because it requires a lot of knowledge to coach effectively and safely - and because its bloody hard work, therefore unsuitable for silly ads showing slim ladies mid exercise smiling happily like they are on drugs or something.

Posted by: Nick | 04-Jun-2009 11:31 AM |

Vibration training is not the future of training and has very little use in anything beyond rehabilitation work or massage.

Posted by: Jamie | 04-Jun-2009 11:39 AM |

I believe it is pointless as it is limited (new fitness frontier lol). If a larger plate were to be made say 6m by 6m there would be some benefits as variety from your normal work outs as whole work outs/routines could be done on this larger vibrating plate.
Although all of these new gadgets and thingamabobs are just so people can get rich as there is nothing like old fashioned hard work and sweat. TTFU which is short for Toughen The F&*% Up (excuse the language) we are all looking for the quick way (including myself on occasion) out, around and through the obvious, which is TTFU do the hard work get the pain, common sense with food and you will be rewarded with results.
I believe any activity if it gets people off their bums is good so to contradict myself if all these gadgets helps people to get up and move great but I do believe people do get ripped off with most of these things quite regularly which gives us all a bad name and makes me sad .

Posted by: Cunningham Australia | 04-Jun-2009 01:05 PM |

First heard about vibration in late 90's' used extensively in Europe and was part of the Russian space program long before it was a fad! Fair amount of data regarding bone density is also available. chill out guys, the world is already an angry place do some yoga?

Posted by: Sharyn | 04-Jun-2009 02:13 PM |

Looks like more for abs and upper body - what about glutes and hammies / quads ?

Posted by: Chris | 04-Jun-2009 02:14 PM |

Hi, Reminds me of the old vibrating belt that was supposed to remove fat from your hips. I didn't fall for it then and I feel skeptical now. If this works then how do we test the results, if any. I think we tend to jump to doing what's easy and not do what is necessary and that's moving and making the body work efficiently and functionally. I would like to know how a vibration can do any of the things mentioned. There are so many trendy things out there, the public go and buy these things and they never get used. I wonder if my massager at home would achieve the same result. No sounds like one of the many things that make people spend more money when our motivation should be basic fitness and well being. I will stick to what I know works and not what is trendy I think.

Posted by: Anonymous | 04-Jun-2009 02:59 PM |

Have been using a power plate machine for around 4 months in an attempt to lose weight and tone muscle in problem areas like thighs and stomach. I found a pilates studio nearby that offered vibration training and signed up - despite the negative connotations that come with a fitness 'fad,' I've found that not only have I lost cm from my thighs and stomach, it has improved my strength as well. It's inspired me to take a better interest in my health and well being especially now I have had an increase in confidence from using the power plate. I did some research on the machine not too long ago and also found a study in the UK that was released showing that power plates assist in weight loss.
Despite the skeptics, I'm a convert. It may be the 'trendy' exercise regime but it sure works for me.

Posted by: Dean Jolly | 05-Jun-2009 06:07 AM |

Chris Cunniham is correct, Eastern block found use for it, BUT definitely NOT as a tool for all the claims being made, nor would anyone who actually uses common sense in their understanding of physiology favour it over self enhancement application. SAID principle.
Still it's there as part of the learning process, and usually they lead on to discovering more about self-applied action, I mean what else does one do when they cant get relief for shoulder issue from local knowledge, then some how vibration helped.
I get it, BUT there is more applied science available, most in industry just don't know it.

Posted by: | 05-Jun-2009 08:30 AM |

There are now over 100 published research articles on the proven benefits of Whole Body Vibration (WBV).
In this months issue of Womens Health p13 Michelle Bridges comments on vibration training as the future of fitness.
When I visited the UK last July I was staggered at the results my friends had achieved using WBV and subsequently set up a studio last Sept running classes on the machines or one on one.
I have been overwhelmed by the huge benefits my clients have achieved in joint mobility, pain relief, balance and co-ordination in the elderly , sustained weight loss and toning particularly with females (yes, you can get into those inner thighs!) right through to core strengthening and improvements in sports performance for athletes.
Yes there are some machines out there that are gimmicks or toys and some just suited to vibrational therapy. You need a machine that will get to 26Hz which is the maximum number of times your muscles can contract and relax in one second.
For those skeptics out there near the Eastern Suburbs in Sydney come and visit me and I'll give you a free punishing workout that you'll feel for days, oh, and you'll sweat too!

Posted by: Ed | 05-Jun-2009 09:21 AM |

Have look at the 'Research Review' article by Dr Mike Climstein in the Spring 2007 issue of Network magazine (go to the Publications tab at the top of this page and select Network magazine). Mike evaluates a study entitled ‘‘Influence of Vibration Training on Energy Expenditure in Active Men’ and, although questioning some manufacturers’ unsubstantiated claims, he also directs readers to check out research studies that have been conducted with regard to whole body vibration exercise and their specific areas of interest online at the ncbi website.

Posted by: Di Heap | 05-Jun-2009 09:36 AM |

I'm a registered fitness consultant working as a Vibration Training Instructor at Vibra-Train's Auckland City Studio.
All are welcome for a free first session. Be prepared to work-out very hard. On our high force, lineal, purpose designed Vibration TRAINING machines this is not easy, s*xy, soppy exercise for the lazy! I can guarantee you pain and can, in one session, prove to doubters that Vibration Training on Real Machines is a great addition to your fitness regime.
The above commenter said that machines must get to 26Hz. This is when using Pivotal Vibration machines for fitness training. It is essential to differentiate between that and High Energy Lineal Machines where 43Hz is the premium for Work-Out although frequency is only one factor in the design equation.
I encourage all fitness professionals to learn all they can about Vibration Training. It's a training method that's here to stay. Scientific studies are now providing the evidence to back up what Users already know.

Posted by: Di Heap | 05-Jun-2009 10:11 AM |

There is a HUGE difference between Vibration TRAINING and Vibration THERAPY. That's the big problem with the this article. It's good to stimulate discussion but the writer is a seller of a handheld vibrating device - which is NOT Vibration Training at all. They are either very uneducated or simply marketing to Not make the distinction. (After reading the article several times I have to comment on this). This is the worst sort of marketing for this industry as it adds to confusion for the general public rather than educating.

Posted by: Di Heap | 05-Jun-2009 11:50 AM |

Quote from above: "For those skeptics out there near the Eastern Suburbs in Sydney come and visit me and I'll give you a free punishing workout that you'll feel for days, oh, and you'll sweat too! "
Again, I'm going to point out that this quote is from someone who has a Studio that provides Vibration TRAINING using Premium Speed Pivotal Machines. This type of Vibration Training, using a machine that has a see-saw action, involves both static and dynamic poses on the machine. It's hard work (I have tried it) and I ached the next day similar to after a weights work-out at the gym.
The other Premium category of Vibration Machine is the High Energy Lineal (Upright Vibration only) platform. Positions on this machine are usually static (non moving). The user feels intense burn (pain like pressure) in the targeted muscles during the 60/120 second poses but most do not feel any "after exercise ache" the next day.
Physicians tell us that aching and pain is a warning mechanism, it's existence tells us NOT to repeat the action that caused it yet we expect to feel it after exercise! We justify this because of the micro-tear in muscle fibres to promote growth process. In my job I really enjoy vibration training body builders - those who go hard in the weights room. They get a workout that compliments their program and no added after-pain. Pain felt after a lineal vibration training session is usually because the person was outside of perfect position on the machine, or had a pre-existing injury that I was disturbed (not a major as ongoing training or vibration therapy will help with healing). Of course there are many different brands of machines, some very good, but others give high frequency uncontrolled vibration that goes up/down, left/right, back/forward - quite severely pushing/pulling the user in many directions at once. Still other "as seen on tv" contraptions are usually so low force that they neither hurt nor help for training and can sometimes be useful for gentle therapy/rehab purposes. Marketing these machines as Vibration Training is a big stretch and results in the type of comments people have written above - fad etc.

Posted by: Lloyd Shaw | 05-Jun-2009 12:35 PM |

This type of article is highly misleading and is at the very essence of why others in the fitness industry think Vibration Training is a crock.
Here are some major facts to consider...
(a) Just because it moves and elicits a response that does not make it Vibration Training. That's like saying horse riding is Vibration Training and the horse is the device ?
Light Vibration = Vibration Therapy ( released approx. 1870 ) Never shown potential to build muscle or burn fat. But fantastic Physio values.
Flexi-Bar / Wobble boards or any other device that elicits this response through Gravity , Body weight or your own exertion = Involuntary Reflex Training. True it elicits close to 100% stimulation, but that does not equate to training. Without the pressure in the movement no anabolic activity can take place. ( been around forever )
Heavy Mechanical Vibration + Working directly against gravity in given pose = Vibration Training ( new )
Health professionals / Marketers etc.. only out to make a buck deliberately blur the line between these technologies, attach the catchphrase "Vibration Training" to it in an unethical bid to confuse the consumer.
They are the enemy of our industry and the consumer.
Why can I say this with such conviction?
Because I was Power Plates Product Manager and only got involved with this technology through my mortuary work ( don't ask ) I left when they deliberately decided to blur the lines all in the name of profit and go from a small steel machine with dense mass which showed promise ( now the Vibro-Gym ) to a plastic low mass machine from China ( much cheaper to build ). Right at a point when we were getting close to moving forward into better designs, we were sold out and they went backwards 40 years. The industry has suffered ever since.
All previous machines had massive limitations both in design, size, max weight ( could not take obese people ) and results that could be obtained But it was a beginning.
Note: Power Plate had previously trademarked "Vibration Therapy" but we were working towards a "Training" system. I originally wanted to set up studios called Vibra-Train that carried the newer larger commercial Power Plates I had designed and hoped they would build. We were obviously not going in the same direction so I set up Vibra-Train with the original steel Power Plates, Vibro-Gyms and Body-Shakers to continue my research into commercial training machines.
I have since continued to support companies like Vibro-Gym , Body-Shaker, Fit-Vibe , Galileo, Hyper-Gravity , Hyper-Vibe , WaveExercise and other companies doing their best to move forward while being as close to honest as you can ask from any company. Not being involved in the retail market has allowed me to be unbiased and write numerous articles for vibrationtraining.net , in theory , training and consumer protection.
It is this simple folks...
Anyone saying that all 250 brands on the market, no matter how they are designed or built , all do the same thing, are not being up front and honest.
I have personally designed 25 machines, and they do not do the same thing, or why would I bother ?
My best advice, try before you buy, do NOT listen to the marketing, and be skeptical of everything you hear. Even those trainers out there who do not get it, be "old school" but not "ignorant" ( there is a difference ). At least test a proper training unit before you make a decision as to weather this science has merit of not.

Posted by: Lloyd Shaw | 05-Jun-2009 01:10 PM |

And in case anyone thinks I am being to hard on the Flexi-Bar guy, go and read his history page. Only ever used and shown results on rehab . In their own words it is just a cheaper version of a popular Physiotherapy tool. No leap forward in design or function.
Versions of this has been around for centuries in Asia where they used bamboo poles. But all of a sudden it has a new name. Vibration Training.

Posted by: Di Heap | 05-Jun-2009 01:25 PM |

A question for Dineke Kleyn-Langeveld, VibroGym. As I am involved in this industry I like to know where other studios are located. I understood that Maxe Jansens Studio had closed. Have you taken it over? It would be good to meet you.

Posted by: Kylie Morrison | 05-Jun-2009 09:40 PM |

After researching vibration training for almost 18 months I took a leap of faith and purchased a Power Plate for my home studio. I use it primarily to enhance functional movement patterns and increase intensity in Pilates based exercise. For the cynics who think it is a fad with no credibility I suggest you start reading the research. My clients also love the feeling of being invigorated after they exercise rather than simply exhausted. Anything that increases adherence to exercise, decreases stress hormone response, and assists in increasing bone density, lean muscle mass and circulatory response in otherwise sedentary populations, for me, is worth it's weight in gold!

Posted by: Steph | 05-Jun-2009 10:23 PM |

All I have to say is the Flexi-Bar is a fantastic tool. I do use in my studio at this present moment on the Gold Coast and of course just like anything else, there are the people who love it and there are the people who hate it. Basically the people who "hate it", are people with poor coordination and basically impatience. It takes time for some people to grasp the connection between the body and the bar. Sure fighting isn't going to help. Once you got it, you can take to a higher level and that's when it becomes more of a workout. It's for sure a great tool to add to a Pilates/ Yoga classes or to a PT session.
Another toy to add to the collection and great with swiss ball, and Bosu balance work!
To make a full Flexi-bar class you basically you need to combine with squats, push up, core and balance work.
And of course do not forget how great is for rehab work!
One more point: 100 times better than the Bodyblade.

Posted by: Jay Bonaretti | 06-Jun-2009 08:47 AM |

Unfortunately, whilst there may be some research out there to back up the effectiveness of this for rehabilitation purposes, there is a lot of misinformation floating around the industry to suggest that it is an effective tool for weight loss.
I published a comprehensive review of the currently available research of this technology in regards to weight loss where I also considered some of the highly misleading advertising that is currently being aired:
http://www.aminoz.com.au/vibration-machines-a-255.html

Posted by: Lloyd Shaw | 06-Jun-2009 05:15 PM |

Jay.........
You did a review on weight loss studies done on rehab machines. What is exactly your point , that you have just figured out they would fail
? That was predicted in 2004 and already written about extensively over the last 5 years and quite a few people have worked hard to expose it.
Doing some homework and at least some legwork, plus testing multiple products, both old and new, and then commenting might have given you a better understanding of what a massive subject you were writing about. Not just sit behind a desk and "read some stuff".
This is exactly the kind of slack research marketers rely on to rip off the public, just in some strange reverse.
Read this....
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090511/can-vibration-plates-shake-off-weight?ecd=wnl_lbt_051309&em=Z2xld2lzQGNsZWF
So not all studies have shown no promise, and instruction and better machinery is coming all the time. You could have at least mentioned part of that.
I understand everyone's concern over allot of the lies out there, and an overview of the industry is always welcome, but to not understand how technology develops, and the hurdles it faces , makes it look like you don't appreciate how everything you take for granted get perfected.
Nothing you use in the gym as "traditional" methods of exercise was perfected or even understood straight away. Joseph Pilates developed his system in 1910, he died in 1967 with no one knowing who he was.
It was not till the early 90s that Doctors cleared people to do weight training, up till that point most thought it would damage your joints.
I can bet your Grandparents did very little " traditional " exercise their entire life. It just a catchphrase trainers like to use for " nothing I don't understand ".
Our Industries Eg progression .......
1875 > Steam powered Vibrational Therapy devices used in the medical and gymnastic industry, Dr Gustav Zander put up centers across Europe and the U.S. Dr George Taylor and J.H. Kellogg was his competition in the U.S. . Their main focus was simple stimulation. Mainly blood flow. The entire gym system , with exer-cycles , indoor rowers, etc.. ( all which were ridiculed by athletes at the time ) collapsed due to the war and following depression.
Vibro-Therapy was used quite a bit in rehab centers across Europe after WW1. were a James, Alexander Alexandrovich also researched it help with Asthma and other disorders.
But generally it was sold as a cure all for everything including tumors by dodgy salesmen. (These people probably sell cheap machines on E-Bay now).
1960 > Hyper-Gravity loading principles applied to various space programs. Evidence of some sporting scientist/coaches looking at potential for athletes.
1995 > Commercial interest in products , but due to lack of exact science , marketing hype outdoes potential of existing units.
2004 > New era of “exact function” education into Training and design begins.
It still has a long way to prove itself, maybe 50 good honest , well thought out studies by researchers not so grant hungry they take anything that moves , and we might convince some people.
In the mean time giving a more balanced view based on reading AND experience might protect the consumer a little better. Education = protection.

Posted by: Gavin Aquilina | 11-Jun-2009 10:38 AM |

At the ACSM conference in Seattle 2 weeks ago, there was a detailed review of research.
Findings, there are 3 primary different types of machines, there is much research out there and these are done utilising mixed protocols (many flawed) and varied objectives. At present there is not multiple research supporting each other.
The major outcomes from the presenters were:
Yes, vibration training does achieve increase and maintenance of bone density.
Yes, vibration training does increase muscle activation.
To achieve these two outcomes you require different training protocols.
The vibration frequency that provides safe and effective training is 30Hz.
The studies demonstrated that results are achieved by those who are de-conditioned but there are very limited benefits to be gained by conditioned and athletes.
One of the summaries was that you can gain great results (for both bone density and muscle activation) by performing activities without the vibration plate and that the vibration plate may ehance this. Vibration plate without these activities does not achieve the same results.
There was a presentation by a lady from the US International Organization for Standardization. She questioned the safety of vibration training as per US ISO 2631 (google this), admittedly this is exposure to vibration frequencies for prolonged periods as per work place environments but she bought about some very pertinent points questioning safety aspects, some of these:
- Avoid sitting on the vibration plate and performing activities
- Work place vibration resulted in vascular remodeling of arteries resulting in a thickening of the lumen and vessel diameter decreasing
- Standing on the plate dampens some of the negative aspects of force transfer
There was a review of approximately 60 - 70 research papers, many with flawed protocols and small study populations. Areas that the research was summarized into were:
Bone density - Positive
Muscle activation - Positive
Hormonal responses - Mixed research no support
VO2 and energy expenditure - Improvements for obese
Body fat - Non significant
Back pain - No difference between whole body vibration and core conditioning exercises
A final comment, people are using very subjective reasons for supporting vibration training, for those who indicate decreases in body fat, have you worked out whether the vibration training is a catalyst for other lifestyle modifications, if these same people did the same exercises and nutrition modifications without vibration training would they have achieved the same outcome. You see the same false positive association with people taking supplements and training, they believe the supplements achieve the results but as we know the supplements by themselves would achieve very limited results.
For bone mineral density and muscle activation for the elderly and de-conditioned there is strong support as long as you use the correct training protocols.
A good recent study:
Jnl of Strength and Conditioning Wilcock 23(2) 593 - 603, 2009

Excellent comment Gavin - Network

Posted by: Lloyd Shaw | 12-Jun-2009 12:58 PM |

There may be a small number of basic types of platforms but hundreds of variations can be made to effect different responses. And the "30hz is the best" only came from the "longest stretch reflex" according to EMG tests, which in no way means its the best. They have even failed to come up with a theory on why it would be best let alone prove it.
Something to think about...
The machine I have seen put the most muscle mass on someone according to a BCA tests only goes 43hz @ 0.7 mm
But 7 other variations were added . The kind of variations people who talk about Fq and Amplitude as the main spec points know nothing about.
"US International Organization for Standardization. She questioned the safety of vibration training as per US ISO 2631"(Google this)
Why don't you Google that with my name next to it, and see the work we did in 2003 , working out safe exposure levels "before" the safety programs were released .
Got to love these "expert" types getting on the bandwagon now years after the real work has already been done. And being so simplistic in their statement it means nothing, it just sounds good to the uneducated.
Eg....
You use the same involuntary reflexes to catch yourself as you do to catch a ball. The distance between you and the thrower is the amplitude, the frequency of the throw is obviously the FQ. If you catch a volley-ball its not that hard to repeat over and over, but change that to a medicine ball and the workload changes considerably. Your form also has to be more precise or you risk injury.
So the Fq may not change, nor the amplitude , but EVERYTHING , including optimal training effects and safety poses, fatigue factors, anabolic responses etc.. can due to the simple change in mass.
And that's just 1 variation in 9 in just a very basic Lineal negative response platform. If you start introducing positive ( pulling ) responses it goes to 24 quite quickly.
The researchers who repeat that Fq and Amplitude are "everything" are only repeating what they hear from companies who have no real idea what they are playing with, so cover up their ignorance with mass marketing and buying off researchers ( with grants ) to repeat their crap.
Both groups are the lowest common denominator in our industry.
Valid Research.... ???
Do you know how many researchers " forgot" ( re were not smart enough ) to tests the machine to even see what they were doing prior to the research. They just went off the manufacturers specs , and with such companies like Power Plate faking specs left right and center. This practice from unethical marketers and lack of foresight from researchers has skewed results to such a point they are basically useless and can not be reproduced.
Direct quotes from David Basset-Jones who did studies on the Power Plate in 2005 , later to find out he was lied to........
“As far as having “engineering reports” done on machines, I would argue that it is the ethical responsibility of the manufacturer to do this testing and report the results. The blame is not on the researchers but the manufactures ”
“As far as my ( Power Plate ) study in 2005, we only measured the accelerations (which were different than the manufacturer’s claimed accelerations). This was done without an individual standing on the plate.”
” I also feel that there are some researchers (myself included) that would like to perform product testing so that consumers can be informed of the true specs.”
“We are testing it loaded and unloaded. Believe it or not, you are not the only one who has wondered if the Power Plate, being made of a softer material than steel, affects the vibration characteristics.”
“I agree that all plates should be tested before (and while, to go above and beyond) they are being used for a research study…..I can only wish that I thought of this prior to doing this study”
“I am more concerned about the errors/limitations of my research than you are. This was years of planning, testing, and analyzing that I put in to this project. I could not account for limitations in the study that I was not aware of at that time.”
Now this from 2009 to show the practice still exists....
Medscape Medical News
ACSM 2009: Whole-Body Vibration Improves Function After Hip Replacement Surgery
Jordana Bieze Foster
June 3, 2009 (Seattle, Washington)
" Exercises were performed on a Pneu-Vibe vibration platform, at manufacturer-calibrated frequencies between 25 and 40 Hz and amplitudes between 4 and 6 mm. However, Dr. Maddalozzo noted that the researchers’ independent measurements put the actual frequency between 21 and 32 Hz and the actual amplitude between 0.82 and 1.1 mm "
Unethical manufacturers + researchers pretending to be smart = my industry treading water

Posted by: Mindy Thiesen | 18-Jun-2009 08:28 AM |

I don't care how efffective vibrational training may be, just being on the machine gave me a headache! No thanks.

Posted by: Di Heap | 18-Jun-2009 09:07 AM |

Hi Mindy, You statement lacks all the information necessary to address it. Like, what type of machine you used or what brand? Was it a higher quality machine in a studio or gym, or was it an "as-seen-on-tv" unit?
Had you eaten before you used the machine - you really must as it's hard -out exercise if you use a higher force platform. Did you drink adequate water before, during and after your session?
Did you have the guidance of an experienced vibration training instructor or PT who knew how to use the machine correctly? Where you in correct positions on the machine with your head and neck correctly placed?
And lastly a warning, again, all machines are not created equal! Even if you eat, drink etc (as needed for all exercise) and use the machine correctly you just might have been using a crappy machine - one that has uncontrolled vibration going in all sorts of directions. I tried a bad one and it made me feel sea-sick. If you tell me where you live I will try to arrange a session on a good machine for you.

Posted by: Stephanie Pettersen | 20-Jun-2009 09:36 AM |

I have wrote a comment before and have been reading the latest comments. I basically think people should try the Flexi-Bar before writing negative comments. How can anyone write a comment on anything if you never seen, touch or tried?
I have used and use at this present moment in my Studio on the Gold Coast and that's why I wrote my comment before and writing again now. I think the Flexi-Bar is unique and it has a huge potential within the Australian Fitness Industry.
And again in my opinion it works better than the Bodyblade because I have tried both. Anyone can swing the Bodyblade but guess what? Not the Flexi-Bar...If you don't have the momentum with the Flexi-Bar, you got nothing...So it is great for people with poor coordination.

Stephanie Pettersen from cyclelates.com.au
4 x Times World Bodyboarding Champion

Posted by: Di Heap | 23-Jun-2009 06:21 AM |

Stephanie, I agree that people should try a method or machine before being totally negative about it. I have nothing against Flexi-Bar as an exercise or therapy method BUT it's a real stretch to call it Vibration Training as the author of this article has done and to compare it to PowerPlate.
A different term is needed for hand force vibration.
Vibration Training is the term used for motorised controlled vibration delivered (usually) via a platform that the user positions on in squats and other exercise poses. Being motorised and controlled in factors like frequency, amplitude etc, it's very different to a hand powered device, no matter how good that device is. I consider this article very misleading.
Di Heap
www.vibeplus.com

Posted by: Steve Schiemer | 13-Jul-2009 04:21 PM |

Response written by Blog Post author: Steve Schiemer

It seems that I have really opened a can of worms with my piece about Vibration Training recently. After reading through some of the posts, I thought I should take the time to address some of the issues raised.

Firstly, I am really surprised by the number of ‘angry’ postings (for want of a better word) about a subject that very few of the respondents have actually used. If you have tried a Power Plate/Vibro-Gym or a FLEXI-BAR and don’t like it, I completely understand. Like anything, it is not for everyone. Surely though, if you haven’t actually experienced something, a final judgement should be reserved until you do? It is akin to me looking at a personal trainer’s profile and deciding that they are not a good trainer, based solely on reading their bio. I am sure the personal trainer in question would argue that they should be given a chance and allowed at least one session with me to prove themselves. In fact they would probably argue that they should do a few sessions with me so we can get to know each other and workout what works and what doesn’t. Surely any new piece of kit deserves the same response – if not for the trainer, for the sake of their client, as it may be something they really take to.

As to this being a marketing ploy because I am the director of the company which sells FLEXI-BARs in the UK, I was asked by Network to submit the piece for discussion because of this fact. I have been involved in this field for the past 5 to 6 years, have run training courses, spoken at fitness events, and spent a lot of my time speaking with physios, coaches and doctors about this type of training. We do not sell in Australia, so there is currently no real personal advantage for me to write the piece. It is also why I am confident that all bar one of the respondents has never used a FLEXI-BAR.

One area that was hotly discussed is that most vibration devices, especially the FLEXI-BAR, are therapeutic, rather than for fitness. That is, they are for rehabilitation of injuries, and not for ‘fitness’. It is absolutely correct to say that FLEXI-BAR began as a rehab tool, and is still used for that. However, it is also used as a fitness training tool, specifically to strengthen the core muscles, improve coordination and balance, and improve sport specific performance. Anyone who has participated in a FLEXI-BAR class or PT session will tell you that the addition of vibrations while performing any number of ‘traditional’ exercises makes those exercises much harder. Again, only actual experience can get this across properly. Added to that the German, Austrian and Finnish Winter Olympic Teams, the British Ski Team, the German and Austrian National Football teams, FC Bayern Munich, Newcastle United FC and many more use FLEXI-BAR as a fitness/strength tool. The Ministry of Defence in the UK began using FLEXI-BAR as part of its rehab programs for injured soldiers, but has now included it in the Basic Training program for new recruits, as the increase in core strength has improved the number of new recruits who finish the course. With today’s technology, it is possible for something that begins life as a rehab tool to cross over to the fitness world. Just look at Pilates, Aqua, the Step platform, and Dyna Bands, all of which started in the rehab world, but are now seen as mainstream fitness tools.

Finally, I really want to address the whole research issue. I am more than aware that the whole area of vibration technology needs much more research before we can be absolutely sure of just how effective it is. I have spent the last five years trying to get studies done (as has the German manufacturer). It is extremely expensive to do a full, double blind study that satisfies all the required criteria for good, solid research. What many people do not realise is that if you can find a research department who will agree to do a study (not easy to find), there is the issue of cost. A good study on a large enough group costs tens of thousands of pounds. In fact, anything up to and beyond £50,000 (AUS$100,000). It is extremely difficult for a research lab or university to find such funding. If a business can afford to pay that kind of money (mine certainly can’t), then any results are frowned upon because the research is funded by the company selling the product. As a result, getting research done is all but impossible. Occasionally a university student will ask to do a small study, but so far only one has actually followed through on this. I would like nothing more than to have more research done on both FLEXI-BAR and any other form of vibration training. Hopefully, with the increasing attention this type of training attracts, the funds will be released for research.

For the person who wanted to know where I got the figures regarding muscle fibre recruitment, see below.

Shepherd, J. All shook up – can vibration training enhance sport performance? http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/vibration-training-and-performance-33404 [Accessed 3 September 2007].

Posted by: Lloyd Shaw | 24-Sep-2009 02:15 PM |

I do not think you get the reason people are "angry" at you. Its your blatant mis-use of the term "Vibration Training" to describe the Flex-Bar you sell. It has NOTHING to do with the Flexi-Bar being effective or not, ( which by the way it is ).
Please note readers...Vibration Training is specific to MECHANICAL vibration, so unless his flexi-bar now has a hidden motor built into it, he is trying to use techno-speak to fool you. And how do I know this? Try looking for the first person to ever list Vibration Training as a Trade-Mark term and ask them what it means.

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